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Post by flats on Mar 25, 2016 8:10:09 GMT -5
I've decided fuck it - I wanted this guy SO goddamn bad four years ago, and was so down in the dumps when we missed out on him, I'm going to let myself feel as good about this as I would have felt if we'd drafted him in 2012.
We got him for an absolute steal. No traded picks. No huge contract. He's ours for nothing. And all the reasons I believed in him then are still relevant - he's still got the huge arm. He's still got great accuracy. He's still incredibly smart. And yeah, he's banged up and needs to learn to stay in the pocket to protect himself - but that's nothing I wasn't thinking back then too. So basically, he's the same guy.
"But flats, he's an old man now!" Not true - he's just 26. That means that when this new contract expires in a few years, he'll actually still be younger than Weeden was the day we drafted him.
"But flats, he's coming back from a bad knee injury and a he was terrible locker room cancer!" OK - remember Carson Palmer's knee injury and how he went from a promising young QB to a seeming has-been? Remember how terrible things got between him and the Bengals coaches and front office? Remember him retiring from football? Remember how Palmer then wound up with Hue Jackson and his career was resurrected?
"But flats, the rest of the roster is a fucking joke." Yeah, it is. But we saw with Hoyer how a team can suddenly be competitive with even mediocre QB play. Use the draft to bring in playmakers for RGIII to get the ball to, and maybe we can actually have fun this year. Which would be a welcome change.
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 25, 2016 8:35:02 GMT -5
Flats is talking to himself again.
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 25, 2016 8:42:01 GMT -5
Most people here hate him and won't even give him a chance.
That said, they would be nuts picking #2 overall with a QB of the future staring at, them to scrap the idea & completely move forward without taking that QB.
Why is it so hard to accept RG3 for who he is - the starting QB this year. This year's Josh McCown.
If he balls out we can look at our options. Otherwise he's a bridge for now. Let's see how healthy he is. And where is at mentally in a year.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 25, 2016 8:42:21 GMT -5
FUCK!
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 25, 2016 8:44:03 GMT -5
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Post by flats on Mar 25, 2016 8:55:12 GMT -5
Flats is talking to himself again. Works for Father Terry Pluto.
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Post by Mikey33 on Mar 25, 2016 18:15:01 GMT -5
Flats is talking to himself again. again implies that he stopped at some point
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Post by Diz on Mar 31, 2016 7:18:57 GMT -5
But Flats, Bob won't throw from the pocket and gets hurt when he leaves it.
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Post by flats on Mar 31, 2016 8:11:13 GMT -5
But Diz, no.
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 31, 2016 8:59:20 GMT -5
I still don't understand why you wouldn't take Goff at 2 still flats. If you have 2 QBs, that's not a bad thing, You trade one. If you end up with no QBs after this year and you are picking 15th, the fuck are they to do?
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 31, 2016 9:02:01 GMT -5
But Flats, yes. There's video proof. As soon as Cam Erving's fat ass steps on Bob's reconstructed ankle this little reclamation project goes kaput!
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Post by flats on Mar 31, 2016 9:40:21 GMT -5
I still don't understand why you wouldn't take Goff at 2 still flats. If you have 2 QBs, that's not a bad thing, You trade one. If you end up with no QBs after this year and you are picking 15th, the fuck are they to do? RGIII is our franchise QB. So we take Goff at two and then what? Trade him two years from now to recoup a mid to late first round pick? At best? That is assuming he looks great in preseason games and garbage time over the next two years. So you want to trade the #2 pick in the 2016 draft for something like the 23rd pick in the 2018 draft? With Goff riding pine instead of having a Jack or Ramsey starting all those years in between? No thanks.
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 31, 2016 9:47:16 GMT -5
I still don't understand why you wouldn't take Goff at 2 still flats. If you have 2 QBs, that's not a bad thing, You trade one. If you end up with no QBs after this year and you are picking 15th, the fuck are they to do? RGIII is our franchise QB. So we take Goff at two and then what? Trade him two years from now to recoup a mid to late first round pick? At best? That is assuming he looks great in preseason games and garbage time over the next two years. So you want to trade the #2 pick in the 2016 draft for something like the 23rd pick in the 2018 draft? With Goff riding pine instead of having a Jack or Ramsey starting all those years in between? No thanks. You hope he is your franchise QB. There's some mileage here and some tweaking. Otherwise he wouldn't have been just signed off the streets. If he isn't and you pick 15th next year while Goff is starting in San Francisco... well don't come to me for playoff tickets.
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Post by flats on Mar 31, 2016 9:50:51 GMT -5
Bob's the man. Why pretend otherwise?
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 31, 2016 9:58:14 GMT -5
Bob's the man. Why pretend otherwise? Call me crazy but the Brees/Rivers scenario sounds better than the Neil O'Donnell scenario.
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Post by Diz on Mar 31, 2016 10:02:33 GMT -5
Got to respect Flats for going all in on RGIII even though we all know it's a very dumb and risky move.
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Post by flats on Mar 31, 2016 11:06:24 GMT -5
I figure he's got the same 20% chance of working out that Goff does. So why not?
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 31, 2016 12:12:35 GMT -5
Bob's the man. Why pretend otherwise? Why pretend he IS the man when NO ONE but Hue Jackson was interested?
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Post by flats on Mar 31, 2016 18:49:08 GMT -5
You think Hue was a bad hire?
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 31, 2016 19:03:43 GMT -5
Probably with our luck.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 31, 2016 19:20:55 GMT -5
You think Hue was a bad hire? To be determined. If RGIII flames out and they don't pick up a real prospect in the draft? Things won't change.
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 31, 2016 19:38:07 GMT -5
BttB, just buy a RG3 jersey already. He is the franchise savior.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 31, 2016 19:53:22 GMT -5
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 31, 2016 19:59:59 GMT -5
Legit question, will you be able to put your hatred of him behind if he plays well?
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 31, 2016 20:07:06 GMT -5
Legit question, will you be able to put your hatred of him behind if he plays well? There's a lot of things that can happen before the start of the season. He may not even start. "speculation".
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