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Post by BrownstotheBone on Apr 16, 2013 4:50:36 GMT -5
I'm hearing they found 1 or possibly more bombs UNdetonated. If that's the case they are going to have to check a whole lot of trash cans or whatever these bombs are in. If that's the case it might be very beneficial for investigators and, later, prosecutors. Who knows what they can learn from finding an intact device. Agreed. Now I'm hearing 3-5.
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Post by TommyDee on Apr 16, 2013 7:31:32 GMT -5
What the hell is a definition of a "terrorist attack" ? I heard this is the first terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11. Those school shootings aren't terrorists attacks? The batman shooter isn't a terrorist attack? Do bombs need to be involved? Political/religious reasons? Not sure how this is already a terrorist attack if we still don't have a motive if so.
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Post by TommyDee on Apr 16, 2013 7:33:21 GMT -5
And the story of the 8 year old kid congratulating his Dad then walking back to his family as his Dad went to go get water or something is enough to make my blood boil.
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Post by Diz on Apr 16, 2013 7:46:54 GMT -5
This is disgusting. What is wrong with people?
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Post by G&T on Apr 16, 2013 8:35:21 GMT -5
So they did/have not find any unexploded bombs just suspicious packages that turned out to be nothing.
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Post by Diz on Apr 16, 2013 8:36:22 GMT -5
You know, when i hear Obama say that whom ever did this will pay, i immediately think to my self, yah if they are American. If this was foreign terrorism, Obama ain't gonna do shit.
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Post by Voodoochile on Apr 16, 2013 8:39:18 GMT -5
What the hell is a definition of a "terrorist attack" ? I heard this is the first terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11. Those school shootings aren't terrorists attacks? The batman shooter isn't a terrorist attack? Do bombs need to be involved? Political/religious reasons? Not sure how this is already a terrorist attack if we still don't have a motive if so. God damn, mother fucking good question.
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Post by TommyDee on Apr 16, 2013 8:40:23 GMT -5
It's hard to figure out the truth regarding news anymore.
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Post by G&T on Apr 16, 2013 8:49:09 GMT -5
It's hard to figure out the truth regarding news anymore. The problem is you have to wait until they know something. I turned on CNN and they're interviewing some chick that was near the finish line, acting like she's some kind of official. They don't give a shit about any of this, just their ratings.
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Post by Diz on Apr 16, 2013 9:07:43 GMT -5
Is there any chance that North Korea has been digging a tunnel underground the last 200 years that reaches America now?
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Post by Diz on Apr 16, 2013 9:10:09 GMT -5
Bomb found in Cleveland? RTA on e.55
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Post by Voodoochile on Apr 16, 2013 9:20:30 GMT -5
Bomb found in Cleveland? RTA on e.55 Don't be surprised if there are reports like this all over the country. Every suspicious bag, box etc will be treated like a potential IED.
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Post by Diz on Apr 16, 2013 9:22:03 GMT -5
Bomb found in Cleveland? RTA on e.55 Don't be surprised if there are reports like this all over the country. Every suspicious bag, box etc will be treated like a potential IED. They are saying a bomb dog sniffed it out. I agree with you though, lots of people will be overly cautious and paranoid today.
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Post by TommyDee on Apr 16, 2013 9:22:43 GMT -5
Bomb found in Cleveland? RTA on e.55 Don't be surprised if there are reports like this all over the country. Every suspicious bag, box etc will be treated like a potential IED. Exactly. Like G&T said they didn't even find other undetonated bombs yesterday, just suspicious packages that turned out to be nothing.
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Post by Diz on Apr 16, 2013 9:45:05 GMT -5
FAA reports 'security incident' at Boston's Logan Airport. US Airways flight from Philadelphia unloaded on tarmac -
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Post by Diz on Apr 16, 2013 9:59:51 GMT -5
Yep, here we go. The freak out party is in full swing.
Two men escorted from a plane at Boston airport for speaking Arabic.
LaGuardia Airport central terminal said to be evacuated because of suspicious package.
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Post by flats on Apr 16, 2013 11:48:31 GMT -5
What the hell is a definition of a "terrorist attack" ? I heard this is the first terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11. Those school shootings aren't terrorists attacks? The batman shooter isn't a terrorist attack? Do bombs need to be involved? Political/religious reasons? Not sure how this is already a terrorist attack if we still don't have a motive if so. Terrorism is a tactic. It is any act of violence with a political motive, designed to be witnessed by a large number of people in order to coerce and change their behavior/preferences. It is only used against democracies, because autocratic leaders don't feel any of the popular pressure that terrorism is designed to inspire. It is also very effective historically. Large terrorist attacks are almost always followed by a concession by the victim. Even the US after 9/11 - we quickly had our troops pulled out of Saudi Arabia, one of bin Ladens chief demands. The school and theater shootings don't qualify as terrorism because, while they had the violence and spectacle components, they did not have a political agenda. When Obama says the investigation will proceed as if this is an act of terror I think he's just saying they are thinking there is probably a political motive here (right wing, Marxist, Islamist, whatever). The "Patriots Day" aspect maybe hinting at right wing.
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Post by acejack on Apr 16, 2013 12:01:07 GMT -5
Hey flats, we get it. You're really hoping the culprit is watching Fox News when they kick his door down.
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Post by flats on Apr 16, 2013 12:01:37 GMT -5
You know, when i hear Obama say that whom ever did this will pay, i immediately think to my self, yah if they are American. If this was foreign terrorism, Obama ain't gonna do shit. There's no reason to think that. The Obama administration has been ruthlessly effective at killing Islamic extremists; much more so than the previous administration. The numbers are clear, and haven't been limited to Afghanistan. Obama has ok'd the killing of terrorists in Pakistan (one especially notable example), Yemen, Somalia and Indonesia. The number of confirmed terrorist kills has skyrocketed under this administration, mostly due to their embracing drone technology.
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Post by flats on Apr 16, 2013 12:03:18 GMT -5
... and a willingness to cut a lot of legal corners.
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Post by flats on Apr 16, 2013 12:29:01 GMT -5
Hey flats, we get it. You're really hoping the culprit is watching Fox News when they kick his door down. I'm not "rooting" for anything. Just speculating. 2 more things that make me think it isn't Islamic - 1. The bombs actually worked (unlike the shoe bomber, underwear bomber, Times Square bomber etc...), and 2. No group has claimed responsibility yet. If this were Al-Qaeda there would be a video bragging about how they came into our country and did this and none of us are safe blah blah blah.
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Post by Voodoochile on Apr 16, 2013 12:35:51 GMT -5
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Post by TommyDee on Apr 16, 2013 12:38:22 GMT -5
Rumors are the bombs were in pressure cookers.
I'm not sure what the hell that even means.
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Post by G&T on Apr 16, 2013 12:43:39 GMT -5
I would think a pressure cooker would help contain the blast, probably means dumb bomber.
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Post by Voodoochile on Apr 16, 2013 12:46:47 GMT -5
I would think a pressure cooker would help contain the blast, probably means dumb bomber. Or more shrapnel.
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