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Post by BrownstotheBone on Feb 22, 2013 8:37:01 GMT -5
Correction. The federal government probably is the best at wasting other peoples money so they got that going for them.
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Post by flats on Feb 22, 2013 9:15:45 GMT -5
If we are basing healthcare on the Medicare or VA model I will gladly pay higher prices. Both of those suck balls. I'm glad you can afford the option of paying for higher quality care. Medicare might suck. But it doesn't suck as bad as no medical care at all, which is the alternative for these people.
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Post by Diz on Feb 22, 2013 9:17:18 GMT -5
If people weren't so fucking sue happy, medical insurance wouldn't be so out of control.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 22, 2013 9:31:08 GMT -5
If we are basing healthcare on the Medicare or VA model I will gladly pay higher prices. Both of those suck balls. I'm glad you can afford the option of paying for higher quality care. Medicare might suck. But it doesn't suck as bad as no medical care at all, which is the alternative for these people. let's get one thing straight - no one in this country will get turned down for medical care they need. You may become bankrupt and destitute, but you will get treatment.
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 22, 2013 9:49:36 GMT -5
I'm glad you can afford the option of paying for higher quality care. Medicare might suck. But it doesn't suck as bad as no medical care at all, which is the alternative for these people. let's get one thing straight - no one in this country will get turned down for medical care they need. You may become bankrupt and destitute, but you will get treatment. The problem I see, and correct me if I'm wrong, but in that scenario if you rent and don't have much if any income, what do you have to lose? Scenario two, you have a mortgage and are doing just alright (making it). You'll get crushed. The system is fucking broken.
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Post by G&T on Feb 22, 2013 9:51:42 GMT -5
I'm glad you can afford the option of paying for higher quality care. Medicare might suck. But it doesn't suck as bad as no medical care at all, which is the alternative for these people. let's get one thing straight - no one in this country will get turned down for medical care they need. You may become bankrupt and destitute, but you will get treatment. Wrong.
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Post by G&T on Feb 22, 2013 9:52:06 GMT -5
let's get one thing straight - no one in this country will get turned down for medical care they need. You may become bankrupt and destitute, but you will get treatment. Wrong. And I mean really, wrong.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 22, 2013 9:56:25 GMT -5
let's get one thing straight - no one in this country will get turned down for medical care they need. You may become bankrupt and destitute, but you will get treatment. The problem I see, and correct me if I'm wrong, but in that scenario if you rent and don't have much if any income, what do you have to lose? Scenario two, you have a mortgage and are doing just alright (making it). You'll get crushed. The system is fucking broken. No doubt - but it is an important distinction. They are not extending health care, but health insurance. That is a big difference.
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Post by acejack on Feb 22, 2013 9:57:02 GMT -5
You won't be turned down for emergency treatment. You walk in with a gunshot they have to stitch you up.
If you have cancer and can't afford to pay, piss off.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 22, 2013 10:03:43 GMT -5
Not true, there are hoops to jump through, but you can and will get treatment.
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Post by acejack on Feb 22, 2013 10:18:14 GMT -5
You also enjoy driving a Jetta and reading the OBR. Something tells me dub step is the least of your odd cravings.
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 22, 2013 10:20:40 GMT -5
Don't forget ass shaving.
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Post by G&T on Feb 22, 2013 10:21:30 GMT -5
Study after study show the uninsured do not recieve health care for major issues like heart attacks, cancer, and even basic illnesses. Contraband is making shit up off the top of his head.
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Post by Diz on Feb 22, 2013 10:21:36 GMT -5
At least we don't live in Canada.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 22, 2013 10:22:43 GMT -5
I'm getting the Jetta's computer flashed soon, +18hp and +21ft/lbs
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Post by acejack on Feb 22, 2013 10:23:44 GMT -5
I wasn't going to bring that up.
But since you did, are rectal lacerations covered by Obama Care? There may be an escape clause for risky behavior.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 22, 2013 10:24:36 GMT -5
Study after study show the uninsured do not recieve health care for major issues like heart attacks, cancer, and even basic illnesses. Contraband is making shit up off the top of his head. if they don't get it, it is because they do not seek it. The uninsured are usually poor, the poor are usually uneducated, and the uneducated usually won't go through all they need to. But they all have access to care if they seek it out.
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Post by G&T on Feb 22, 2013 10:48:47 GMT -5
Study after study show the uninsured do not recieve health care for major issues like heart attacks, cancer, and even basic illnesses. Contraband is making shit up off the top of his head. if they don't get it, it is because they do not seek it. The uninsured are usually poor, the poor are usually uneducated, and the uneducated usually won't go through all they need to. But they all have access to care if they seek it out. Again, untrue. Read the first page of the article I posted.
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Post by G&T on Feb 22, 2013 10:49:44 GMT -5
At least we don't live in Canada. Yeah that would be horrible with the low crime, legal weed, and free health care.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 22, 2013 11:00:23 GMT -5
if they don't get it, it is because they do not seek it. The uninsured are usually poor, the poor are usually uneducated, and the uneducated usually won't go through all they need to. But they all have access to care if they seek it out. Again, untrue. Read the first page of the article I posted. I will read it when I have a chance. But I also know that my sister maintains a certain number of clinical hours where she treats people that have no insurance. Now she is an OB-GYN, but I have talked to her a lot about it and she said there are oncologists there too treating people with cancer, as well as a myriad of other issues.
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Post by Diz on Feb 22, 2013 11:00:58 GMT -5
At least we don't live in Canada. Yeah that would be horrible with the low crime, legal weed, and free health care. What is it, and 18% tax rate on everything?
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 22, 2013 11:03:31 GMT -5
Yeah that would be horrible with the low crime, legal weed, and free health care. What is it, and 18% tax rate on everything? I love the Canadian health care argument, when Canadians HATE it. Have voted to get away from it and will often cross the border and pay for US healthcare.
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Post by Diz on Feb 22, 2013 11:05:08 GMT -5
I was being sarcastic.
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Post by G&T on Feb 22, 2013 12:45:50 GMT -5
Again, untrue. Read the first page of the article I posted. I will read it when I have a chance. But I also know that my sister maintains a certain number of clinical hours where she treats people that have no insurance. Now she is an OB-GYN, but I have talked to her a lot about it and she said there are oncologists there too treating people with cancer, as well as a myriad of other issues. There are some free options, but it still leaves millions untreated. Hell my own brother who I guess is still fucked since the drugs didn't work but had he not had insurance there is no way he could have afforded the $10,000 a month for the prescriptions. and he's not poor, who has $10k a month extra outside of Javvy?
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Post by Diz on Feb 22, 2013 12:47:08 GMT -5
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