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Post by Diz on Jan 30, 2012 15:01:48 GMT -5
The Lakers are said to be very interested in Ramon Sessions but what are they willing to give up that we need?
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Post by TommyDee on Jan 30, 2012 15:20:52 GMT -5
Draft picks.
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Post by Mikey33 on Jan 31, 2012 11:59:24 GMT -5
is the Lakers late round draft pick worth anything? |
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Post by Diz on Jan 31, 2012 12:01:14 GMT -5
is the Lakers late round draft pick worth anything? More than Sessions worth IMO. |
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Post by Sigflanagan6 on Jan 31, 2012 12:11:29 GMT -5
is the Lakers late round draft pick worth anything? In this draft? Yes. |
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Post by Diz on Mar 15, 2012 12:37:32 GMT -5
Sessions traded to Lakers - more to come.
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Post by flats on Mar 15, 2012 12:42:30 GMT -5
Hope we were able to get a first.
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Post by flats on Mar 15, 2012 12:44:17 GMT -5
Cavs send Ramon Sessions & Christian Eyenga for Luke Walton & 2012 Lakers first rounder. LAL gets right to swap '13 1st rounder w/Heat pick
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Post by flats on Mar 15, 2012 12:44:33 GMT -5
^ per windbag
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Post by flats on Mar 15, 2012 12:51:25 GMT -5
Looks like a fine deal to me. Not the straight player for pick deal I was hoping for, but I doubt there will be much of a difference between those '13 picks, and Eyenga's window was closed IMO. Walton is awful, but he has to be better than Harangody.
We'll probably wind up using this Laker pick to move up a bit in the lotto and grab our guy.
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Post by ragu on Mar 15, 2012 14:40:39 GMT -5
Why didn't we get the Dallas pick from the Lakers? It was the better first round pick. LA traded that pick and Derek Fisher to Houston for Jordan Hill. I think Sessions is the better player plus we had to on shitty Luke Walton and his bloated contract for next year.
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Post by flats on Mar 15, 2012 15:12:59 GMT -5
If it makes you feel better that Dallas pick is top 20 protected. So as it stands now (Dallas is 16) if we had acquired that pick we might not be using it for a few years. We'll definitely be getting LA's pick this season. No way they miss the playoffs.
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Post by ragu on Mar 15, 2012 15:18:02 GMT -5
If it makes you feel better that Dallas pick is top 20 protected. So as it stands now (Dallas is 16) if we had acquired that pick we might not be using it for a few years. We'll definitely be getting LA's pick this season. No way they miss the playoffs. Did not know that and it definitely makes me feel better. Right now LA picks 25. So best Houston could get is 21 this year or picking in later years. This is a strong draft so I would rather take 25 now. LA is the 3rd seed right now so yes they will be in. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2012 17:10:26 GMT -5
Walton. Ughh. His horse-faced father is unbearable.
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Post by sigsdad on Mar 15, 2012 20:44:05 GMT -5
I love the trade. What we'll do with Walton is a mystery, but that 1st round pick is nice & just may be used to gain us a better spot in the 1st round. I'm really surprised we got a 1st rounder for Sessions & I was afraid we would end up with that Jonny Flynn, who has shown next to nothing in the NBA.
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Post by tsaw on Mar 23, 2012 10:57:52 GMT -5
I love the trade. What we'll do with Walton is a mystery, but that 1st round pick is nice & just may be used to gain us a better spot in the 1st round. I'm really surprised we got a 1st rounder for Sessions & I was afraid we would end up with that Jonny Flynn, who has shown next to nothing in the NBA. Ol' Dad Better to get something than just let Sessions walk. Mid 20s picks in the NBA are a crap shoot. I'm hoping for Bradley Beal in the Lottery. Good kid. Can shoot it. Bulkier Ray Allen. |
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Post by flats on Mar 23, 2012 11:29:46 GMT -5
Right now the Cavs picks are (around) 8, 24, 32, 38.
As bad as last year's draft class was, this one is deep. I absolutely think we should be able to get a player the GM and Coach really like with LA's pick.
That said, I really think all those later picks are going to be used to move up at some point. I think Grant will target a player he really likes, and these trades have given him the ammo to go up and get him. Which I am more than fine with. Studies have shown that in the NFL trading up in the draft is almost never worth it, but in the NBA the team that trades up almost always ends up the winner in the deal. If they're at 8 or 9 and Grant loves Barnes, who is still sitting there at 4, hell yes sell the farm and go get him.
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Post by tsaw on Mar 23, 2012 11:33:47 GMT -5
Right now the Cavs picks are (around) 8, 24, 32, 38. As bad as last year's draft class was, this one is deep. I absolutely think we should be able to get a player the GM and Coach really like with LA's pick. That said, I really think all those later picks are going to be used to move up at some point. I think Grant will target a player he really likes, and these trades have given him the ammo to go up and get him. Which I am more than fine with. Studies have shown that in the NFL trading up in the draft is almost never worth it, but in the NBA the team that trades up almost always ends up the winner in the deal. If they're at 8 or 9 and Grant loves Barnes, who is still sitting there at 4, hell yes sell the farm and go get him. I'd be all for that but you rarely see trade downs in the NBA in the top half of the Lottery. You only have 5 players on the court might as well draft the difference maker. I like Barnes and Beal quite a bit. Skilled guys, good athletes, good kids. Need to see more from Lamb and Perry Jones III. |
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Post by ragu on Mar 23, 2012 12:54:46 GMT -5
I would move up for sure. You only have 12 or 13 guys on your roster. There is no need to draft 4 rookies. If they had to keep all the picks, I would assume at least 1 would be a foreign guy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2012 13:25:18 GMT -5
Right now the Cavs picks are (around) 8, 24, 32, 38. How far up could you move if you bundle those? |
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Post by ragu on Mar 23, 2012 13:30:03 GMT -5
You would have to find a team that wants quantity over quality. I don't think any team would want 4 picks for one. Like I said, you only have 12-13 bodies on a team
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 23, 2012 13:32:32 GMT -5
Right now the Cavs picks are (around) 8, 24, 32, 38. How far up could you move if you bundle those? Can they just trade them all in for more lottery balls? |
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Post by tsaw on Mar 23, 2012 13:37:23 GMT -5
Right now the Cavs picks are (around) 8, 24, 32, 38. As bad as last year's draft class was, this one is deep. I absolutely think we should be able to get a player the GM and Coach really like with LA's pick. That said, I really think all those later picks are going to be used to move up at some point. I think Grant will target a player he really likes, and these trades have given him the ammo to go up and get him. Which I am more than fine with. Studies have shown that in the NFL trading up in the draft is almost never worth it, but in the NBA the team that trades up almost always ends up the winner in the deal. If they're at 8 or 9 and Grant loves Barnes, who is still sitting there at 4, hell yes sell the farm and go get him. Cavs have the best plan of all the pro teams in town. Too bad it's the NBA team with the plan. |
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Post by flats on Mar 23, 2012 14:35:28 GMT -5
Right now the Cavs picks are (around) 8, 24, 32, 38. How far up could you move if you bundle those? No idea. Does the nba have a value chart? My guess would be 8 24 and 32 could move you to the 4-6 range. Or u could pick at 8 , then use 24 32 and 38 to get something in the 16-19 range. Just a rough guess. |
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Post by tsaw on Mar 23, 2012 14:38:56 GMT -5
How far up could you move if you bundle those? No idea. Does the nba have a Valerie chart? My guess would be 8 24 and 32 could move you to the 4-6 range. Or u could pick at 8 , then use 24 32 and 38 to get something in the 16-19 range. Just a rough guess. The one team that is desperate for quantity has to be Charlotte. If they don't get the first pick I could see them trading with the Cavs. There's no clear-cut No. 2 is there? I wouldn't touch Drummond that high. |
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