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Post by TommyDee on Mar 5, 2018 18:01:40 GMT -5
Parcells has to be a Rosen/Darnold type.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 5, 2018 19:50:43 GMT -5
Parcells has to be a Rosen/Darnold type. Or just a talent/winner type.
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 5, 2018 20:28:48 GMT -5
.....scribbling on a piece of paper for future arguments sake.. Phenom - Josh Rosen TommyDee - Sam Darnold BTTB - Baker Mayfield VooDoo - Flats - Diz - Mevins -
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 5, 2018 20:33:27 GMT -5
You catch on fast.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 5, 2018 20:34:15 GMT -5
Plenty of time. Let's see the pro days...
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 5, 2018 20:34:53 GMT -5
Rosen & Darnold are so close for me. Its 1a/1b.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 6, 2018 5:20:16 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by flats on Mar 6, 2018 9:56:49 GMT -5
In Grossi's defense, he doesn't cover an NFL team. He covers the Browns. He doesn't need to know football, because they don't play football. All he needs to know how to do, to do his job well, is to call the franchise a bunch of fucking morons. That's all it takes to be an accurate journalist on this beat. And that isn't Grossi's fault.
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Post by brownsphenom on Mar 6, 2018 14:01:23 GMT -5
Rosen & Darnold are so close for me. Its 1a/1b. I approve this post
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Post by flats on Mar 6, 2018 14:50:04 GMT -5
None of you ballwatchers knows what you think about these QBs yet, because I haven’t shared the results of my YouTube scouting.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 6, 2018 16:55:15 GMT -5
Actually we're all waiting for Javvy to tell us who PFF likes.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 6, 2018 16:57:45 GMT -5
Just heard a pundit on the radio claim Lamar Jackson was his #1.
You know what? NOBODY really knows. That's what I think.
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Post by brownsphenom on Mar 6, 2018 18:08:38 GMT -5
I know
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 6, 2018 18:50:54 GMT -5
No you don't. You've just had too many REDD's.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 6, 2018 18:53:32 GMT -5
Speaking of not knowing, where the hell is Dr. Mock?
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 6, 2018 19:01:51 GMT -5
Just heard a pundit on the radio claim Lamar Jackson was his #1. You know what? NOBODY really knows. That's what I think. Exactly. Still have pro days, private workouts and interviews. Plus hopefully due diligence on interviews with coaches and so forth so they don't end up with another Gilbert.
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Post by flats on Mar 6, 2018 20:41:41 GMT -5
Parcells has to be a Rosen/Darnold type. Parcells put a lot of value on completion %, and games started. He might like Mayfield more than we'd think.
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Post by brownsphenom on Mar 6, 2018 21:07:15 GMT -5
No you don't. You've just had too many REDD's. This may be true
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Post by flats on Mar 6, 2018 21:07:37 GMT -5
Pro Days? Private Workouts? Interviews?
Who needs that shit when you've got my 3 minute YouTube scouting reports!!!!!!!!!!! That's right mouthbreathers, it's your favorite day of the year, I am going to tell you what your QB opinion should be!!! After almost 30 full minutes of total research, I've compiled my list. It'll probably take some of you dolts longer than that just to read it.
#1: Joshua Rosen. 6'4", 226 lbs. Prototypical size, and his throws have a crisp velocity. He goes through his progressions like a pro and is decisive when he sees what he's looking for. But what sets him apart is his excellent ball placement. He doesn't just deliver the ball to the correct man, he delivers it to the correct shoulder. The guy is just smooth as fuck.
#2: Samuel Darnold. 6'3", 221 lbs. His feel for the pocket stands out. As does his athleticism. He throws with accuracy and anticipation. I'm not blown away by his arm strength, but it looks fine. His throwing motion is a bit loping, but it isn't slow, so I wouldn't fuck with it even though that's a pet peeve of mine. He's fun to watch. He has good instincts and isn't affected by defenders in his face. He's just a baller. Throws a lot of jump passes, which is sort of weird but fun. My ranking of Rosen first is more about style. I prefer a guy who works within structure. Rosen is precise and deliberate. Darnold is more free wheeling, which just isn't my preference. But if the medicals don't check out on Rosen I'd select Darnold and feel great about it. I like both more than I liked any QB last year. I'll be thrilled to have either of them.
#3: Baker Mayfield. 6'1", 215 lbs. Snaps his passes off well. Looks antsy in the pocket, but hangs in there, doesn't bail out too early. He mostly makes his reads. My concerns are that because of his height he uses his feet to get to a launch point which he may not be able to do at the next level. And his completion % is seriously inflated due to his conference. I actually like that he's a bit older at 24, because Hue is going to play whoever we draft too fucking early. If we were at 8 or something, and didn't have the #1 pick, I'd be happy to give Mayfield a shot. I like him way more than I liked Johnny. But we do have #1, so we can go with a guy with fewer flags.
#4: Lamar Jackson. 6'2", 216 lbs. He looks frail. He's too quick to tuck the ball and run with it. Arm and accuracy are good enough to work with. After the Watson success last year someone will take him early. But I wouldn't be that someone. I'd be the one telling him to take an Antwan Randle El kinda career path.
#5: Joshua Allen. 6'5", 237 lbs. He throws late across his body. Poor pocket feel. Doesn't make quick decisions or throw with anticipation. I don't see the Wentz comparisons beyond the both went to small schools. I see a Weeden/Oswseiler type. He's a sniper rifle without a scope. He can fire it off, but he doesn't know where the fuck it's going.
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 6, 2018 21:32:20 GMT -5
Good work flats
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 6, 2018 21:32:52 GMT -5
Speaking of not knowing, where the hell is Dr. Mock? Working on that Josh Allen website.
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 6, 2018 21:46:39 GMT -5
Pro Days? Private Workouts? Interviews? Who needs that shit when you've got my 3 minute YouTube scouting reports!!!!!!!!!!! That's right mouthbreathers, it's your favorite day of the year, I am going to tell you what your QB opinion should be!!! After almost 30 full minutes of total research, I've compiled my list. It'll probably take some of you dolts longer than that just to read it. #1: Joshua Rosen. 6'4", 226 lbs. Prototypical size, and his throws have a crisp velocity. He goes through his progressions like a pro and is decisive when he sees what he's looking for. But what sets him apart is his excellent ball placement. He doesn't just deliver the ball to the correct man, he delivers it to the correct shoulder. The guy is just smooth as fuck. #2: Samuel Darnold. 6'3", 221 lbs. His feel for the pocket stands out. As does his athleticism. He throws with accuracy and anticipation. I'm not blown away by his arm strength, but it looks fine. His throwing motion is a bit loping, but it isn't slow, so I wouldn't fuck with it even though that's a pet peeve of mine. He's fun to watch. He has good instincts and isn't affected by defenders in his face. He's just a baller. Throws a lot of jump passes, which is sort of weird but fun. My ranking of Rosen first is more about style. I prefer a guy who works within structure. Rosen is precise and deliberate. Darnold is more free wheeling, which just isn't my preference. But if the medicals don't check out on Rosen I'd select Darnold and feel great about it. I like both more than I liked any QB last year. I'll be thrilled to have either of them. #3: Baker Mayfield. 6'1", 215 lbs. Snaps his passes off well. Looks antsy in the pocket, but hangs in there, doesn't bail out too early. He mostly makes his reads. My concerns are that because of his height he uses his feet to get to a launch point which he may not be able to do at the next level. And his completion % is seriously inflated due to his conference. I actually like that he's a bit older at 24, because Hue is going to play whoever we draft too fucking early. If we were at 8 or something, and didn't have the #1 pick, I'd be happy to give Mayfield a shot. I like him way more than I liked Johnny. But we do have #1, so we can go with a guy with fewer flags. #4: Lamar Jackson. 6'2", 216 lbs. He looks frail. He's too quick to tuck the ball and run with it. Arm and accuracy are good enough to work with. After the Watson success last year someone will take him early. But I wouldn't be that someone. I'd be the one telling him to take an Antwan Randle El kinda career path. #5: Joshua Allen. 6'5", 237 lbs. He throws late across his body. Poor pocket feel. Doesn't make quick decisions or throw with anticipation. I don't see the Wentz comparisons beyond the both went to small schools. I see a Weeden/Oswseiler type. He's a sniper rifle without a scope. He can fire it off, but he doesn't know where the fuck it's going. That's a lot of words but if I'm not mistaken I don't see moxie there.
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Post by flats on Mar 6, 2018 22:02:42 GMT -5
Preferences for pick #4 go Fitz, Barkley, Chubb. But I waffle on the Barkley/Chubb order. Today I say Chubb isn’t a superelite prospect like Garrett was, and look at how a great rb helped Dak in his rookie year. Tomorrow I might say rb isn’t a premier position and pass rusher is.
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Post by brownsphenom on Mar 7, 2018 8:14:27 GMT -5
Worst offense in the history of sports for the last two years and you guys want to draft defense with the second first pick. There are soccer teams who have out scored this offense.
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Post by flats on Mar 7, 2018 9:04:27 GMT -5
Worst drafting team in the history of sports and you’ll bitch about coming away with the #1 QB and #1 pass rusher in the draft.
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