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Post by BrownstotheBone on Feb 24, 2017 13:33:54 GMT -5
They never came back man. They're in Baltimore.
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 24, 2017 16:11:26 GMT -5
BttB, my response would probably be along with what flats said. This isn't the team you grew up loving. This a fraud that has turned what was a great organization into a national joke. Obviously I care or I wouldn't be here or be thinking about the draft or ever turn them on again. But this is not the team I watched when I was a little kid nor is it the team my Dad grew up seeing title after title.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Feb 24, 2017 16:19:08 GMT -5
So ownership is problem #1. Agreed?
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Post by Voodoochile on Feb 24, 2017 16:24:03 GMT -5
I think Al Lerner really cared and did his best.
Pajamas just looked at it as a burden IMO.
Jimmy sees it as $$$$.
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 24, 2017 17:19:47 GMT -5
They brought it up the other day on Rizzo's show that when Lerner died it really hurt the team. Butch saw the opening, took all team control, blazed out & it's been a mess since.
Think about before that. Yes the return was rushed, & the team was pathetic in the first couple years but they made the playoffs in year 4. That's pretty good. Been a mess since.
Jimmy amazes me. How has this man run a successful business? He hires shit & then turns them over and over. No business can succeed in that model.
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Post by flats on Mar 1, 2017 6:28:11 GMT -5
There are several college guys I like in this draft, but our team is such a dump I have a very hard time seeing any of them being successful in Cleveland. That's depressing.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 1, 2017 6:44:06 GMT -5
Someone should do a YouTube scouting report.
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Post by flats on Mar 1, 2017 17:01:37 GMT -5
I did, but I want to see combine results to confirm a few things. A couple guys who's reported height seems exaggerated to me.
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 2, 2017 8:51:57 GMT -5
Per Roast Beef - Mitch Trubisky measured 6-2 1/8, just like his coach told me he would. That helps his case.
So he's not quite 6'3" but he's not a midget like some worried about. Mahomes is slightly shorter at 6'2", Watson is slightly taller than 6'2" and they all have similar hands & weights 221-225.
Kizer is the biggest at 6'4" 233 lbs with the biggest hands (and cock).
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 2, 2017 13:10:37 GMT -5
Yikes, poor guy:
Greg Gabriel @greggabe News that Jonathan Allen has moderate arthritis in both shoulders is huge. Fact is arthritic conditions never improve, they only get worse
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 2, 2017 13:11:03 GMT -5
That should seal the almost obvious already deal that Garrett is the pick.
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 2, 2017 13:21:42 GMT -5
Yikes, poor guy: Greg Gabriel @greggabe News that Jonathan Allen has moderate arthritis in both shoulders is huge. Fact is arthritic conditions never improve, they only get worse I can attest to that. They can do cortisone shots and pain meds but that's about it. Garrett is the pick unless they trade or fall in love with a QB.
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Post by Diz on Mar 2, 2017 14:38:09 GMT -5
That is worse than posting a youtube video right before the draft in a gas mask bonging some weed.
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 2, 2017 14:43:44 GMT -5
That is worse than posting a youtube video right before the draft in a gas mask bonging some weed. He had a decent season from what I read. Somebody cost him some cash though.
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Post by Diz on Mar 2, 2017 14:47:19 GMT -5
That is worse than posting a youtube video right before the draft in a gas mask bonging some weed. He had a decent season from what I read. Somebody cost him some cash though. No doubt. I'm fully expecting something to come out about Myles right before the draft so that the Browns are once again fucked.
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Post by flats on Mar 2, 2017 16:21:56 GMT -5
Garrett at 1, Allen at 12?
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 2, 2017 17:24:40 GMT -5
Garrett at 1, Allen at 12? Let's say he could give us 5 good years then has to retire. That's better than most guys give us. So sure.
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Post by flats on Mar 2, 2017 18:13:26 GMT -5
That's what I figure. Even if he's great, we just let those guys walk away at their first chance at FA anyway.
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 2, 2017 19:09:50 GMT -5
How many players have we drafted that gave us 5 great years whether we let them walk or not?
Joe Thomas Joe Haden I think gave us five really good years before injuries. Mack
Who else?
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Mar 2, 2017 19:56:17 GMT -5
Swagger? 5 in dog years.
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 2, 2017 21:04:20 GMT -5
Well in dog years he might have more years than Joe T.
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Post by flats on Mar 2, 2017 21:53:39 GMT -5
Daylon McCutcheon.
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 2, 2017 21:57:27 GMT -5
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 2, 2017 21:58:47 GMT -5
There aren't any others so just stop thinking guys.
(Dawson)
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 3, 2017 7:26:32 GMT -5
Sad isn't it? Specially with all the high draft picks they've had.
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