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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 9:14:51 GMT -5
Our problem is, is that we are judging these guys after 13 or 20 games and it's not reasonable.
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 9:22:10 GMT -5
Who are you building off? Did we have solid drafting this year? What the hell is a finisher? I don't think the draft was all that bad this year. I'm not as down on it as i usually am. I think Coleman will be good, Ogbah should be a 15 year starter, and Nassib is a wait and see but he's shown flashes. I think Danny Shelton is a good piece to build around, he played shitty last year but has made huge strides this year. You think Coleman will be good. That is worthless. A 15 year starter? Holy fuck. Agree on Shelton.
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 9:22:39 GMT -5
Cam Erving has made a huge leap the past 5 weeks. 5 weeks ago he didn't belong a high school field so...
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 9:23:24 GMT -5
Our problem is, is that we are judging these guys after 13 or 20 games and it's not reasonable. It's not 1976. Young players are supposed to make an impact.
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 9:37:09 GMT -5
Our problem is, is that we are judging these guys after 13 or 20 games and it's not reasonable. It's not 1976. Young players are supposed to make an impact. On teams with a system in place and players that can already play.
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 9:38:36 GMT -5
At the beginning of the year everybody knew we were going to be bad and they were ready to wait this one out but now that we are losing nobody wants to wait it out.
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 9:38:54 GMT -5
You can't break the cycle until you break the cycle.
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 9:39:54 GMT -5
I don't really give a shit about this team so i'm willing to lose 4 years.
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 10:02:04 GMT -5
It's not 1976. Young players are supposed to make an impact. On teams with a system in place and players that can already play. So the Browns are the only exception to this in the league? Give me another example if not.
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 10:02:48 GMT -5
At the beginning of the year everybody knew we were going to be bad and they were ready to wait this one out but now that we are losing nobody wants to wait it out. I'm not saying fire everyone and start over again. But what progress have you seen? What do you feel better about right now than in September. You already mentioned Shelton.
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 10:03:11 GMT -5
On teams with a system in place and players that can already play. So the Browns are the only exception to this in the league? Give me another example if not. 0-14 makes them special, that is for sure.
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 10:07:17 GMT -5
At the beginning of the year everybody knew we were going to be bad and they were ready to wait this one out but now that we are losing nobody wants to wait it out. I'm not saying fire everyone and start over again. But what progress have you seen? What do you feel better about right now than in September. You already mentioned Shelton. Fuck, i don't know tommy. Watching them play isn't really on the top of my list of things to do. All i know is: They are worse than i thought they could be I loved the Hue signing so i'm going to give it time, regardless of what i think of him right now The rookies from last year have gotten better than they were The rookies this year aren't as bad as i thought the rookies were last year We suck
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 10:13:36 GMT -5
Explain if you were GM where you go from here. Who are you building on? Who are you cutting? Who are trying to trade? Who are you firing? It feels like a 19 year project at best. Well this was my initial questions and you said stay the course, build on what they have and trade the 1st pick. I agree they aren't worth your time. I agree they suck. I don't see any promise in sight is my point. I have zero hope for this organization. And I honestly don't care. Change my mind.
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 10:26:04 GMT -5
Explain if you were GM where you go from here. Who are you building on? Who are you cutting? Who are trying to trade? Who are you firing? It feels like a 19 year project at best. Well this was my initial questions and you said stay the course, build on what they have and trade the 1st pick. I agree they aren't worth your time. I agree they suck. I don't see any promise in sight is my point. I have zero hope for this organization. And I honestly don't care. Change my mind. The only thing that will change anybody's mind is to win.
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 10:31:20 GMT -5
So you would make no changes on the staff or personnel, not look to trade anyone but would trade the 1st pick. Got it. I hope someone else can give me some hope.
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 10:52:40 GMT -5
So you would make no changes on the staff or personnel, not look to trade anyone but would trade the 1st pick. Got it. I hope someone else can give me some hope. Fire Tabor.
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 10:55:50 GMT -5
So you would make no changes on the staff or personnel, not look to trade anyone but would trade the 1st pick. Got it. I hope someone else can give me some hope. Fire Tabor. And Horton. That's a start.
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 10:57:02 GMT -5
I think I take Myles at 1 and trade for a QB. They've got to jump start this thing.
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Post by Voodoochile on Dec 19, 2016 11:12:52 GMT -5
All is lost, there is no hope.
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 11:32:45 GMT -5
So you would make no changes on the staff or personnel, not look to trade anyone but would trade the 1st pick. Got it. I hope someone else can give me some hope. I don't feel the suns comin' out today its staying in, its gonna find another way. As I sit here in this misery, I don't think I'll ever see the sun from here. And oh as I fade away, they'll all look at me and say, and they'll say, Hey look at him! I'll never live that way. But that's okay they're just afraid to change. When you feel your life ain't worth living you've got to stand up and take a look around you then a look way up to the sky. And when your deepest thoughts are broken, keep on dreaming boy, cause when you stop dreamin' it's time to die. And as we all play parts of tomorrow, some ways will work and other ways we'll play. But I know we all can't stay here forever, so I want to write my words on the face of today. and then they'll paint it And oh as I fade away, they'll all look at me and they'll say, Hey look at him and where he is these days. When life is hard, you have to change.
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 12:57:50 GMT -5
Also I hope Hue has no power. Because if he is truly behind these QB decisions...
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 13:27:34 GMT -5
Also I hope Hue has no power. Because if he is truly behind these QB decisions... If he did make the decisions on those choices, i'd expect his opinion to not matter the next time around. But to be fair, there weren't really any options that would've been great unless they hit lucky button on Dak.
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 13:35:03 GMT -5
Would Dak have come with the best offensive line, Zeke, Dez and Witten?
As for Hue, even the decisions he has been making in season are worrisome. RG3 gave us the best chance to win these last 2 weeks? Come on.
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Post by Diz on Dec 19, 2016 13:36:47 GMT -5
Would Dak have come with the best offensive line, Zeke, Dez and Witten? As for Hue, even the decisions he has been making in season are worrisome. RG3 gave us the best chance to win these last 2 weeks? Come on. Stupid question.
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Post by TommyDee on Dec 19, 2016 13:55:36 GMT -5
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