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Post by acejack on Mar 28, 2012 17:53:02 GMT -5
Bobby has sex with LeBron?
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Post by bobbymo on Mar 28, 2012 18:03:47 GMT -5
Bobby has sex with LeBron? That's pretty much what I said, give or take.
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Post by Sigflanagan6 on Mar 28, 2012 18:32:28 GMT -5
If the roles were reversed, would we know either of their names?
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 28, 2012 18:37:38 GMT -5
If the roles were reversed, would we know either of their names? Only if you a. knew them b. were directly involved (PD, ER, FD etc.) c. the funeral home & then they may only know the deceased name
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2012 19:30:19 GMT -5
I was asking my wife (who is black)
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 28, 2012 19:42:38 GMT -5
Serioulsy, I'm glad you guys on the board are on the same page as me. I am fucking mad as hell that this dude is getting tried before all the facts come out. I think Lebron and the Heat look like even bigger tools because of that picture. Basically, wearing a hoodie for support or demanding justice is basically asking the police to circumvent the law, which is just retarded. Of course we are on the same page. This board might be filled with assholes, but we ain't no dummies.
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Post by bobbymo on Mar 28, 2012 23:17:20 GMT -5
I was asking my wife (who is black) You go to that well too much, javvy
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Post by Sigflanagan6 on Mar 28, 2012 23:21:32 GMT -5
This is great. Attachments:
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Post by brownsphenom on Mar 29, 2012 10:55:02 GMT -5
Trial by media never works and most of them look like assholes when the truth comes out
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Post by Mikey33 on Mar 29, 2012 11:25:31 GMT -5
the biggest problem is that the dude chased him down AND that 911 dispatch told him not to. Now he looks like a wanna be cop.
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 29, 2012 11:31:47 GMT -5
Mikey the biggest thing to me is they are trying someone in the media without all the facts. If this Zimmerman idiot is dirty & there is evidence he will be arrested & tried. Let the damn police do their job.
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Post by Mikey33 on Mar 29, 2012 11:34:42 GMT -5
Mikey the biggest thing to me is they are trying someone in the media without all the facts. If this Zimmerman idiot is dirty & there is evidence he will be arrested & tried. Let the damn police do their job. I know, no argument there. People keep giving examples, what if so and so did this and the like. I am just pointing out, that while I don't agree with trial by media, the guy isn't making it any easier.
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Post by bobbymo on Mar 29, 2012 15:06:26 GMT -5
Mikey the biggest thing to me is they are trying someone in the media without all the facts. If this Zimmerman idiot is dirty & there is evidence he will be arrested & tried. Let the damn police do their job. There were 6 eyewitnesses on the scene. All of their stories match Zimmerman's. The police did not arrest him on the scene and have not for the past month. Based on Zimmerman's account (which was matched by the eyewitness accounts), this looks like a clear cut case of self defense. Everything esle is just race-baiting bullshit. No one looks good here.
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Post by flats on Mar 30, 2012 11:27:42 GMT -5
...but phony. The person pictured on the bottom right is not Trayvon Martin. I could care less about the racial component here. The real problem is Florida's terrible "stand your ground law." Pleading self-defense was always an option in our legal system. But it is a case that had to be presented to, and decided by, an actual judge, not some community college dropout beat cop. When a man with a pistol kills an unarmed boy the matter warrants more serious investigation than it received. Of course, the real REAL problem here is that the Second Amendment itself is a terrible law and the common citizen has no reasonable need to own a firearm, but there's no point in having that discussion as I'm one of about 4 people in this country who hold that opinion.
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Post by brownsphenom on Mar 30, 2012 11:40:11 GMT -5
Flats the purpose of the second amendment was for the people to protect themselves from the government. It was said, it is not only the responsibility of the people to over throw government if it gets out of control, but it is their duty as citizens to do such.
Oh great ideas that somehow get lost...
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 30, 2012 11:41:31 GMT -5
What in your opinion is reasonable need to own a firearm flats?
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Post by flats on Mar 30, 2012 11:52:32 GMT -5
Flats the purpose of the second amendment was for the people to protect themselves from the government. It was said, it is not only the responsibility of the people to over throw government if it gets out of control, but it is their duty as citizens to do such. Oh great ideas that somehow get lost... Anyone who thinks whatever they're packing in their wall safe is gonna do a goddamn thing against the US Government is delusional. Take the next 20 largest military powers on the globe and put them all together - the US military still dwarfs any oppositional coalition you can construct. The idea that Cletus and Jo-Bob are gonna lead a successful insurrection with their deer rifles is a fantasy. Real life isn't like "Red Dawn."
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Post by flats on Mar 30, 2012 11:55:21 GMT -5
What in your opinion is reasonable need to own a firearm flats? Being a member of the military or a police force. Your average John Doe owning a weapon is going to create more problems than it solves.
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Post by Voodoochile on Mar 30, 2012 12:03:38 GMT -5
What in your opinion is reasonable need to own a firearm flats? Being a member of the military or a police force. Your average John Doe owning a weapon is going to create more problems than it solves. I'd have to disagree with you that the average John Doe owning a weapon creates a problem. Dumb fucks owning weapons yes but not your average John Doe. Everyone in my family and my wife's family have owned weapons since god knows when & there has never been an issue.
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Post by TommyDee on Mar 30, 2012 12:08:04 GMT -5
The idea of nobody but the military and police having guns is fine in a fairy land or if you could start the world over with.
If someone feels they want a gun to protect their family from other assholes then I say they should have that right.
I've been kicking around the idea of getting a gun.
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Post by acejack on Mar 30, 2012 12:15:38 GMT -5
Flats doesn't get it.
It's not about overthrowing the government. It's about the fact that the average amount of time for a first responder to answer a 911 call is plenty for your whole family to be raped and murdered.
I'm glad Metro will get here in 20 minutes, shoot everyone involved and burn the house down. That's not what I'm looking for.
If every home invasion turned into a shootout maybe these fucking animals would think about hitting softer targets, like banks.
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Post by flats on Mar 30, 2012 12:25:45 GMT -5
I'd have to disagree with you that the average John Doe owning a weapon creates a problem. Dumb fucks owning weapons yes but not your average John Doe. I guess this comes down to a difference of opinion about your "average John Doe" then. For me, the average John Doe is a dumb fuck.
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Post by brownsphenom on Mar 30, 2012 12:35:35 GMT -5
Flats the purpose of the second amendment was for the people to protect themselves from the government. It was said, it is not only the responsibility of the people to over throw government if it gets out of control, but it is their duty as citizens to do such. Oh great ideas that somehow get lost... Anyone who thinks whatever they're packing in their wall safe is gonna do a goddamn thing against the US Government is delusional. Take the next 20 largest military powers on the globe and put them all together - the US military still dwarfs any oppositional coalition you can construct. The idea that Cletus and Jo-Bob are gonna lead a successful insurrection with their deer rifles is a fantasy. Real life isn't like "Red Dawn." In todays world this is true, but the intent was protection from the government. Today it's more for protection against other dumb fucks who want to take what I have. By that I mean my wife and kids. With the new world comes new problems ie: home invasions, car jackings etc. Some fucker tries to car jack someones family, do you think this asshole is gonna give you/me time to get the kids out of their car seats. Or is he gonna take off with them in the backseat scared out of their minds and their lives in danger. I couldn't live with myself if I let that happen.
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Post by flats on Mar 30, 2012 12:54:09 GMT -5
The idea of nobody but the military and police having guns is fine in a fairy land or if you could start the world over with. That's a bit strong. There are plenty of places in the world where this is the norm. I've spent years living in countries where only law enforcement carried weapons, and I found it preferable to our system. It felt safer, and confrontations like the one between Martin and Zimmerman ended with bloody noses or black eyes, not brains blown across the sidewalk. It's just my personal experience. But yeah - I recognize that I'm in the vast minority on this. For the US any hope of real gun control is a fantasy, as the manufacturer's special interest groups have made it impossible to have a real debate on the issue. Anyone who says that hey, maybe a lunatic like Jared Leigh Loughner shouldn't be able to own a piece is all of a sudden portrayed as arguing that your kids should be killed and your wife raped in front of you. What are you supposed to do in the face of such hysterics?
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Post by Mikey33 on Mar 30, 2012 13:19:24 GMT -5
Nazi Germany?
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