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Post by Diz on Feb 28, 2012 13:36:40 GMT -5
How about a quick mock draft before the combine is over that all Browns fans are going to hate. And before people ask, i have Washington trading with St. Louis because it makes the most sense right now with all the rumors going around.
1. Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck Stanford 6'4" 235 QB
2. Washington Redskins - Robert Griffin Baylor 6'2" 220 QB
3. Minnesota Vikings - Matt Kalil USC 6'6" 295 LOT
4. Cleveland Browns - Morris Claiborne LSU 6'0" 178 CB
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Trent Richardson Alabama 5'11" 224 RB
6. St. Louis Rams - Riley Reiff Iowa 6'6" 300 OT
7. Jacksonville Jaguars - Justin Blackmon Oklahoma State 6'1" 212 WR
8. Miami Dolphins - Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M 6'4" 220 QB
9. Carolina Panthers - Whitney Mercilus Illinois 6'3" 262 DE43 OLB34
10. Buffalo Bills - Luke Kuechly Boston College 6'2" 235 WILB SILB
11 Kansas City Chiefs - Courtney Upshaw Alabama 6'2" 268 OLB34
12. Seattle Seahawks - Zach Brown North Carolina 6'2" 230 OLB43 WILB
13. Arizona Cardinals - Jonathan Martin Stanford 6'6" 305 LOT
14. Dallas Cowboys - Dre Kirkpatrick Alabama 6'2" 192 CB
15. Philadelphia Eagles - Michael Floyd Notre Dame 6'3" 228 WR
16. New York Jets - Melvin Ingram South Carolina 6'2" 271 OLB34 DE43
17. Cincinnati Bengals (via Oakland Raiders) - Janoris Jenkins North Alabama 5'10" 182 CB
18. San Diego Chargers - Mike Adams Ohio State 6'6" 320 ROT LOT
19. Chicago Bears - David DeCastro Stanford 6'5" 312 OG
20. Tennessee Titans - Cordy Glenn Georgia 6'5" 348 OG ROT
21. Cincinnati Bengals - David Wilson Virginia Tech 5'10" 200 RB
22. Cleveland Browns (via Atlanta Falcons) - Nick Perry USC 6'3" 250 OLB34 DE43
23. Detroit Lions - Quinton Coples North Carolina 6'6" 285 DE43 DE34
24. Pittsburgh Steelers - Peter Konz Wisconsin 6'5" 313 OC OG
25. Denver Broncos - Jerel Worthy Michigan State 6'3" 305 DT43
26. Houston Texans - Dontari Poe Memphis 6'5" 350 DT34 DT43
27. New England Patriots (via New Orleans Saints) - Stephon Gilmore South Carolina 6'1" 194 CB
28. Green Bay Packers - Michael Brockers LSU 6'6" 306 DE34 DT43
29. Baltimore Ravens - Kendall Wright Baylor 5'10" 195 WR
30. San Francisco 49ers - Mohamed Sanu Rutgers 6'2" 218 WR
31. New England Patriots - Devon Still Penn State 6'4" 305 DT43 DE34
32. New York Giants - Andre Branch Clemson 6'4" 258 DE43 OLB34
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 28, 2012 13:39:11 GMT -5
I LOVE that draft!
But I think you have Adams too high and Coples too low.
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 28, 2012 13:50:00 GMT -5
~Top 4 I agree with
~Richardson will slip
~Reiff is a RT, lower
~Too high on Adams
~Wilson before Miller? Okay Wolf
~Too low on Coples
~Poe is a good at working out and running in shorts
~Wright to the Ravens? Why? They have Smith at WR
GOOD WORK DR. MOCK!!!!!!!!
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Post by Diz on Feb 28, 2012 13:50:03 GMT -5
Coples has dropped off a little bit in my opinion. By the time the combine is over, i think you will see at least 2 DE's ranked higher than him.
As far as Adams is concerned, his senior bowl moved him up a little bit. I may have him a little high but it's possible that he goes a little earlier because of his versatility.
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Post by Diz on Feb 28, 2012 13:56:49 GMT -5
~Top 4 I agree with ~Richardson will slip - maybe but he is top 3 in overall talent so maybe not ~Reiff is a RT, lower - don't be silly, he's the second best RT in the draft ~Too high on Adams - senior bowl leap ~Wilson before Miller? Okay Wolf - Wilson is a better runner ~Too low on Coples - he's weak ~Poe is a good at working out and running in shorts - Will fit that Houston defense perfectly ~Wright to the Ravens? Why? They have Smith at WR - Lee Evans was a failure GOOD WORK DR. MOCK!!!!!!!!
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 28, 2012 13:58:47 GMT -5
Coples has dropped off a little bit in my opinion. By the time the combine is over, i think you will see at least 2 DE's ranked higher than him. As far as Adams is concerned, his senior bowl moved him up a little bit. I may have him a little high but it's possible that he goes a little earlier because of his versatility. I have no doubt that he will be the fourth or fifth DE taken, but I think they'll go top 20. I said months ago that Mercilus would end up being a top ten pick.
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Post by Diz on Feb 28, 2012 14:02:59 GMT -5
BTW, i would hate it if this were the way it actually turned out.
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 28, 2012 14:08:57 GMT -5
BTW, i would hate it if this were the way it actually turned out. I'm rooting for Buffalo if this happens.
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Post by Diz on Feb 28, 2012 14:10:02 GMT -5
BTW, i would hate it if this were the way it actually turned out. I'm rooting for Buffalo if this happens. My girlfriends mom got me a Buffalo shirt for christmas.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 28, 2012 14:35:41 GMT -5
You guys are crazy - this draft with a resigned Hillis and we win more games next year than if we trade 4 and 22 for Griffin.
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 28, 2012 14:47:52 GMT -5
You guys are crazy - this draft with a resigned Hillis and we win more games next year than if we trade 4 and 22 for Griffin. Hooray we go 6-10 or 7-9 and draft 13th the next year. Treading water. Get me a fucking QB.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 28, 2012 14:59:37 GMT -5
You guys are crazy - this draft with a resigned Hillis and we win more games next year than if we trade 4 and 22 for Griffin. Hooray we go 6-10 or 7-9 and draft 13th the next year. Treading water. Get me a fucking QB. Actually more like 4-5 (better than 2-3 behind RG3 looking lost). Then we have fewer holes to fill and we trade up for Barkley. Boom, SB 2015
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 28, 2012 15:06:22 GMT -5
Hooray we go 6-10 or 7-9 and draft 13th the next year. Treading water. Get me a fucking QB. Actually more like 4-5 (better than 2-3 behind RG3 looking lost). Then we have fewer holes to fill and we trade up for Barkley. Boom, SB 2015 You are going to win 5 more games with what offense? McCoy handing it to a stacked box vs. Hillis? And then you'll trade up for another version of McCoy the following year? I love ya mikey but you and me are very far apart on how we would build a team & how we look at QBs.
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 28, 2012 15:11:03 GMT -5
AActually I should say far apart on how we would run this team.
Because we both love DL's.
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Post by Diz on Feb 28, 2012 15:11:30 GMT -5
Tommy is my GM, that's how much we are on the same page here.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 28, 2012 15:18:37 GMT -5
Actually more like 4-5 (better than 2-3 behind RG3 looking lost). Then we have fewer holes to fill and we trade up for Barkley. Boom, SB 2015 You are going to win 5 more games with what offense? McCoy handing it to a stacked box vs. Hillis? And then you'll trade up for another version of McCoy the following year? I love ya mikey but you and me are very far apart on how we would build a team & how we look at QBs. No, I was saying we'd win 4-5 games next year with McCoy at QB. But I think it's more than we'd win with Griffin. I'm sorry, I don't see it for the Browns. Shanny's O in DC, sure the kid will shine and I expect him to end up there. I don't think H&H are even considering him anymore than the usual due diligence.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 28, 2012 15:27:25 GMT -5
And let me add this.
I WANT to upgrade the QB. Desperately.
But to me the two best options this year to do that are Hasselback and Kolb.... those aren't great options.
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 28, 2012 15:27:46 GMT -5
Then H&H should be fired and this gay WCO offense should removed.
How about you go get some damn talent and tweak your schemes to your talent rather saying this is how it is & that's that.
This team is boring and losing fans by the year. If you aren't going to win me a Super Bowl, entertain me on Sundays.
RGIII can do both.
All aboard the RGIII train........................
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Post by flats on Feb 28, 2012 15:33:21 GMT -5
Did Mikey just say signing Matt Hasselbeck is a better QB upgrade than drafting RG3?
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Post by Voodoochile on Feb 28, 2012 15:33:57 GMT -5
Who says RGIII can't play in the WCO? From all reports the kid is smart as hell. That's one thing McCoy has never been accused of. Yeah he works hard but so do ditch diggers.
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Post by TommyDee on Feb 28, 2012 15:37:18 GMT -5
Who says RGIII can't play in the WCO? From all reports the kid is smart as hell. That's one thing McCoy has never been accused of. Yeah he works hard but so do ditch diggers. I say he can fit in it very well in the WCO. He is accurate, mobile, smart. Honestly I think he can be Steve Young in this offense. My response was to mikey, who thinks not only does he not fit in this offense but that H&H already know that.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 28, 2012 15:38:34 GMT -5
I haven't seen RG3 look a safety off once.
I haven't seen him make many progressions.
I see him break out of the pocket, let Wright break free downfield, and make a big throw. That's nice and all, but it doesn't always translate to the NFL.
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Post by Voodoochile on Feb 28, 2012 15:39:53 GMT -5
I haven't seen Cam Newton look a safety off once. I haven't seen him make many progressions. I see him break out of the pocket, let the WR break free downfield, and make a big throw. That's nice and all, but it doesn't always translate to the NFL.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 28, 2012 15:44:27 GMT -5
I haven't seen Cam Newton look a safety off once. I haven't seen him make many progressions. I see him break out of the pocket, let the WR break free downfield, and make a big throw. That's nice and all, but it doesn't always translate to the NFL. You know what's funny? Break down Newton's games last year. He looked great against some shitty D's and looked pedestrian or very bad again decent D's.
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Post by Mikey33 on Feb 28, 2012 15:46:39 GMT -5
Who says RGIII can't play in the WCO? From all reports the kid is smart as hell. That's one thing McCoy has never been accused of. Yeah he works hard but so do ditch diggers. I say he can fit in it very well in the WCO. He is accurate, mobile, smart. Honestly I think he can be Steve Young in this offense. My response was to mikey, who thinks not only does he not fit in this offense but that H&H already know that. Steve Young took a long time to develop into a good QB.
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