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Post by flats on Jun 18, 2017 16:07:32 GMT -5
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Post by flats on Jun 19, 2017 11:21:19 GMT -5
According to Windy if the Cavs offer Love it's a done deal, over. Since they're still talking we're probably trying to give up just Tristan and Shump or something like that. Maybe trying to get a 3rd team in the mix.
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Post by TommyDee on Jun 19, 2017 12:16:06 GMT -5
According to Windy if the Cavs offer Love it's a done deal, over. Since they're still talking we're probably trying to give up just Tristan and Shump or something like that. Maybe trying to get a 3rd team in the mix. Imagine if they landed George without moving Love. Kyrie, Lebron, George and Love? Hello.
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Post by Diz on Jun 19, 2017 12:52:39 GMT -5
They'd still lose to the Warriors in a 7 game series
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Post by TommyDee on Jun 19, 2017 13:21:47 GMT -5
They'd still lose to the Warriors in a 7 game series Go to hell.
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Post by Diz on Jun 19, 2017 13:56:43 GMT -5
They'd still lose to the Warriors in a 7 game series Go to hell. Am i wrong?
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Post by TommyDee on Jun 19, 2017 14:12:27 GMT -5
Hell yeah you are wrong. The Cavs were right with that team for the last 3 games. Add Paul George? Lebron > Durant Kyrie > Curry George > Klay Love < Draymond Iggy may walk. We need to upgrade the bench a bit. Get younger. But we are right with that team if they added George. Now I don't know how the hell they can do it without moving Love. So there's that.
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Post by flats on Jun 19, 2017 14:19:57 GMT -5
My guess is if we can swing a deal w/o Love the Lakers would suddenly swoop in with an offer that included the #2 pick plus a young talented player and we'd then have to decide whether to up our offer to include Love.
It comes down to what kind of assurances you can get from George that he's interested in being here long term. You can't give up multiple years of Love in a team friendly contract for a one year rental. Or worse, give up Love then see George talk LeBron into joining him in LA since they're both free agents next offseason. If LeBron walks the Cavs would want to at least still have Irving and Love left.
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Post by flats on Jun 19, 2017 14:25:26 GMT -5
I think it goes from a situation where we win two or three times out of ten to one where we win four or five times out of ten maybe? There are so many moving parts though. If Curry loses a step next year at age thirty, and Iggy walks they're not the same team. If Steph keeps his quicks and they respond to our adding PG by bringing in Jimmy Butler or something it's a totally different deal.
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Post by TommyDee on Jun 19, 2017 14:25:54 GMT -5
Did you see what Lebron did for his kid's birthday? You really think he's going to make these kids move to LA? I don't buy all that media hype.
I agree on you can't move Love for George as a rental. I'd love to see that big 4 together.
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Post by flats on Jun 19, 2017 14:28:21 GMT -5
It would be very very interesting offensively. That's for sure.
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Post by TommyDee on Jun 19, 2017 14:31:18 GMT -5
It would be very very interesting offensively. That's for sure. Start Edy Tavares at Center?
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Post by flats on Jun 19, 2017 14:48:49 GMT -5
Did you see what Lebron did for his kid's birthday? You really think he's going to make these kids move to LA? I don't buy all that media hype. I agree on you can't move Love for George as a rental. I'd love to see that big 4 together. I guess but if you're Dan Gilbert you're betting about a billion $ that LeBron can't find water balloons in Malibu? He only likes Akron water balloons?
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Post by flats on Jun 19, 2017 14:49:30 GMT -5
It would be very very interesting offensively. That's for sure. Start Edy Tavares at Center? No.
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Post by flats on Jun 19, 2017 14:50:48 GMT -5
1: Irving 2: JR 3: George 4: LeBron 5: Love
Or if we lose Love same lineup but put Tristan at the 5.
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Post by Diz on Jun 19, 2017 14:53:13 GMT -5
My guess is if we can swing a deal w/o Love the Lakers would suddenly swoop in with an offer that included the #2 pick plus a young talented player and we'd then have to decide whether to up our offer to include Love. It comes down to what kind of assurances you can get from George that he's interested in being here long term. You can't give up multiple years of Love in a team friendly contract for a one year rental. Or worse, give up Love then see George talk LeBron into joining him in LA since they're both free agents next offseason. If LeBron walks the Cavs would want to at least still have Irving and Love left. For some random fucked up reason, i'd love to see the Lakers trade that second pick so that Lavar Balls kid doesn't get drafted by them.
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Post by flats on Jun 19, 2017 14:55:16 GMT -5
Don't forget about Cedi Osman too. He's probably valued as a mid-late first round pick as a trade chip. Or if we keep him he makes JR or Shump more tradable. 22 year old 6'8" wing player. Can hit the three a bit. Think Sasha Pavlovic type player, big guard, who hopefully has a higher defensive ceiling.
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Post by TommyDee on Jun 19, 2017 14:57:15 GMT -5
Start Edy Tavares at Center? No. I was kidding.
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Post by TommyDee on Jun 19, 2017 15:00:28 GMT -5
Don't forget about Cedi Osman too. He's probably valued as a mid-late first round pick as a trade chip. Or if we keep him he makes JR or Shump more tradable. 22 year old 6'8" wing player. Can hit the three a bit. Think Sasha Pavlovic type player, big guard, who hopefully has a higher defensive ceiling. We can't move JR. Just can't. I'm fine with moving Shump.
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Post by flats on Jun 19, 2017 15:42:29 GMT -5
I don't think anyone else wants him anyway. But if he's what's standing between you and getting Paul George you've got to move him.
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Post by TommyDee on Jun 19, 2017 15:47:28 GMT -5
The more I think about it I would trade Love if need be. George fits better vs. Golden State.
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Post by TommyDee on Jun 19, 2017 16:09:14 GMT -5
Cavs are going after Jimmy Butler?
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Post by brownsphenom on Jun 19, 2017 16:57:53 GMT -5
I move love in a heartbeat for PG13. I'd also move JR neither showed any significance in the finals
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Post by brownsphenom on Jun 19, 2017 16:58:23 GMT -5
Don't think this team is just one trade away right now.
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Post by BrownstotheBone on Jun 19, 2017 18:38:33 GMT -5
I'll be absolutely stunned if Griff isn't brought back. LeBron said publicly he wants him. Word is Gilbert will offer a big raise and some new job title. Brian Windhorst‏Verified account @windhorstespn Follow More The Cavs and general manager David Griffin will part ways according to sources
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