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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 7:26:29 GMT -5
Dude is amazing on the field. He's a ticking time-bomb off the field.
Get a #1 and maybe a sweetener -- deal with fan backlash -- on move on. He'll be out of the league soon.
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Post by Diz on Sept 23, 2013 7:32:13 GMT -5
Stop it.
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Post by TommyDee on Sept 23, 2013 7:38:50 GMT -5
I hope to God they don't move him. He's special.
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Post by Diz on Sept 23, 2013 7:40:17 GMT -5
He's worth taking a chance on. I am concerned about what Chuds plan is when other teams start taking him out of the mix. You can't pass to Cameron on every play and we damn sure don't have a RB.
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Post by TommyDee on Sept 23, 2013 7:41:48 GMT -5
I'm not concerned. We have King Hoyer.
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Post by Diz on Sept 23, 2013 7:47:21 GMT -5
lol While i am optimistic, i'm not retarded.
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Post by TommyDee on Sept 23, 2013 7:52:51 GMT -5
In 2011, the Heckert/Holmgren group traded the sixth pick in a very strong top of the first round (Von Miller, A.J. Green, Julio Jones, Aldon Smith, Patrick Peterson, J.J. Watt) to Atlanta for two first-rounders, a second-rounder and two fourths. What they got in return:
2011 first: Defensive tackle Phil Taylor, a decent starter, who Cleveland had to deal up six spots to acquire. The tradeup cost Cleveland its third-round pick. Kansas City used that pick to select Justin Houston, who leads the NFL in sacks this morning. 2011 second: Wideout Greg Little, who has been a marginal starter.
2011 fourth: Fullback Owen Marecic, cut by the new regime in camp this summer.
2012 first: Quarterback Brandon Weeden, who is in the process of being replaced as the Cleveland quarterback.
2012 fourth: Used in the trade to move up to draft Trent Richardson.
Essentially, the bounty of picks for Jones resulted in one player likely to be an average to above-average starter: Phil Taylor, who plays about 60 percent of the defensive snaps. And it cost Cleveland the equivalent of Justin Houston to move up to get Taylor.
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Post by Diz on Sept 23, 2013 7:58:12 GMT -5
In all fairness, they did draft Jordan Cameron and Josh Gordon and Jabaal Sheard and Billy Winn and Phil Taylor and John Hughes
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Post by Josh on Sept 23, 2013 7:59:52 GMT -5
If you could get a first rounder for him I'd entertain the idea for a minute and then reject it. You'd never get a 1 with all his problems. If he straightens himself out he's going to be a superstar we can't get rid of that.
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Post by Diz on Sept 23, 2013 8:03:07 GMT -5
I say give him an extension NOW
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Post by TommyDee on Sept 23, 2013 8:08:42 GMT -5
I can't imagine they let the story out that they were trying to trade him on accident. Maybe it was just motivation. I'll keep telling myself that.
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Post by Voodoochile on Sept 23, 2013 8:27:20 GMT -5
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Post by Mikey33 on Sept 23, 2013 8:37:29 GMT -5
if you can get a first - and you might, someone might get desperate, then I would take it. Otherwise, I roll the dice
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Post by Voodoochile on Sept 23, 2013 8:44:01 GMT -5
Unlike Richardson, Gordon is a sorely needed offensive play maker who actually makes plays.
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Post by Diz on Sept 23, 2013 8:46:05 GMT -5
Hey, Greg Little didn't look too bad yesterday
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Post by TommyDee on Sept 23, 2013 8:48:09 GMT -5
Hoyer was hitting the guys in stride and not putting his WRs in spots to get killed.
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Post by Voodoochile on Sept 23, 2013 8:48:53 GMT -5
Hey, Greg Little didn't look too bad yesterday Someone posted during last weeks game that the offense would look completely different this week with Gordon back and was dismissed. Granted we had a different QB and RBs
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Post by Sigflanagan6 on Sept 23, 2013 14:16:20 GMT -5
Hey, Greg Little didn't look too bad yesterday Someone posted during last weeks game that the offense would look completely different this week with Gordon back and was dismissed. Granted we had a different QB and RBs That was me. He brings a different element and spaces the D. Can't go straight man against us with him out there. Have to play zone, which then becomes pick your poison with Gordon and Cameron.
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Post by Voodoochile on Sept 23, 2013 14:19:05 GMT -5
Someone posted during last weeks game that the offense would look completely different this week with Gordon back and was dismissed. Granted we had a different QB and RBs That was me. He brings a different element and spaces the D. Can't go straight man against us with him out there. Have to play zone, which then becomes pick your poison with Gordon and Cameron. Actually it was me I was talking about lol
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Post by Sigflanagan6 on Sept 23, 2013 14:24:19 GMT -5
That was me. He brings a different element and spaces the D. Can't go straight man against us with him out there. Have to play zone, which then becomes pick your poison with Gordon and Cameron. Actually it was me I was talking about lol Haha. I said the same thing. Great minds. I'd say Gordon is one of 6 untouchables on this roster.
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Post by Voodoochile on Sept 23, 2013 14:27:27 GMT -5
Actually it was me I was talking about lol Haha. I said the same thing. Great minds. I'd say Gordon is one of 6 untouchables on this roster. It's been reported Banner was shopping Gordon & Little. Hopefully he changed his mind on Gordon after yesterday.
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Post by TommyDee on Sept 23, 2013 14:34:46 GMT -5
Actually it was me I was talking about lol Haha. I said the same thing. Great minds. I'd say Gordon is one of 6 untouchables on this roster. Hoyer Gordon Thomas Haden Mingo DQ ?
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Post by Diz on Sept 23, 2013 14:38:44 GMT -5
Lanning, he can do it all
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Post by Josh on Sept 23, 2013 15:03:20 GMT -5
Damn you Tommy for making that avatar before I could get home and make one.
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Post by TommyDee on Sept 23, 2013 15:10:46 GMT -5
Damn you Tommy for making that avatar before I could get home and make one. It's pretty great.
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